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Ливен тоже оказывается любит анекдот из жизни про Обаму:

"His most famous foreign policy maxim, “Don’t do stupid s***”, is just a less elegant contemporary way of expressing the traditional Realist value of Prudence. The ethic of consequences is closely tied to Max Weber’s Ethic of Responsibility (Verantwortungsethik), which he and subsequent US Realist thinkers like Hans Morgenthau and George Kennan made central to their own version of ethical realism, and which they opposed the Ethic of Conviction (Gesinnungsethik) which demands moral action irrespective of likely consequences, and which is epitomised by figures like Samantha Powers, the anti-“Genocide” activist and Obama’s ambassador to the UN."
http://valdaiclub.com/news/obama-s-foreign-policy-doctrine/

а окружение Обамы приведенное клинтонихой в виде нуланд назвал шибболетами

"; but despite some of his statements in the Atlantic Monthly, he has not been able to free himself sufficiently from the Washington foreign policy elites and the shibboleths to which they became addicted during the long years of American global dominance, and achieve a truly realistic US world policy which corresponds to the new world and America’s new relative position in it."

P.S.

"According to multiple reliable sources, on Air Force One during President Barack Obama’s recent Asia trip, he spent some time talking with his traveling press corps about his approach to foreign policy. He was defensive and, by one account, "fuming." He felt that the criticism of his approach was unfair. He had clear ideas about how to manage America’s global interests. In his own words, they centered on a single concept: "Don’t do stupid shit."
In fact, after making this point, he reportedly stood up, headed forward toward his own cabin on the plane, and then stopped. He turned back to the gathered reporters, and, much like an elementary school teacher hammering rote learning into students, he said, "So what is my foreign policy?" The reporters, in unison, then said, "Don’t do stupid shit.""
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/04/obamas-dont-do-stupid-shit-foreign-policy/

да и шутки были забавные:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/growing-pressure-obama-something-stupid

"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) led the attack on Thursday, blasting Obama for failing to craft a stupid response to crises in Iraq, Syria, and Ukraine.


“Instead of reacting to these events with the haste and recklessness they deserve, the President has chosen to waste valuable time thinking,” McCain said. “This goes against the most fundamental principles of American foreign policy.”

Graham also expressed frustration with the President, telling reporters, “The American people are waiting for President Obama to do something stupid, but their patience is wearing thin.”

In his most withering criticism, McCain called Obama’s “stubborn refusal to do stupid stuff” a failure of leadership. “If I were President, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have done plenty of stupid stuff by now,” he said."

Date: 2016-05-12 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pascendi.livejournal.com
Невероятно интересное интервью Рея МакГоверна в "Салоне", в двух частях -- собственно, ссылаюсь потому, что там упоминаются некоторые персонажи из Вашего поста:
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/14/this_is_how_the_cia_botched_iraq_post_911_bob_gates_careerist_sycophancy_and_the_real_history_of_the_deep_state/

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/07/intelligent_people_know_that_the_empire_is_on_the_downhill_a_veteran_cia_agent_spills_the_goods_on_the_deep_state_and_our_foreign_policy_nightmares/

Date: 2016-05-13 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleatorius.livejournal.com
спасибо, почитаю!

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